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cajungeo
10-24-2002, 16:57
If you have a 10/22 with a steel bolt stop pin, in time the bolts impact will elongate the holes in your alum receiver. You need a bolt buffer. Here is a link for the least expensive bolt buffer I have found. 1 for $5 or 3 for $10. Check out this site:
http://www.weaponkraft.itgo.com/
I have several 10/22's.One since 1979 with THOUSANDS of rounds threw it.I've never seen one with an elongated hole.I'm not saying it can't happen,just never seen it.And I've seen alot of 10/22's.:sniper:
cajungeo
10-25-2002, 17:57
Hey PSG1, I have been looking for a test to failure article on this subject. Haven't found it yet. Most articles or sites typically say this: This bolt stop pin stops the bolt from crashing into the rear of the alloy receiver and in doing so transfers that energy to the drilled receiver holes. This abrupt transfer of energy can affect zero on scoped rifles. Repeated cycling will cause elongation of these holes and eventual damage to the receiver. All I can add from personal experience on working on aircraft for 20 years is aluminium will corrode when exposed to a dissimilar metal due to galvanic action (steel pin in a aluminium hole), also aluminium will work harden when repeatedly impacted. It will become brittle, and fine fatique cracks will appear, and weaken structure.
My personal opinion is, 5 bucks is pretty cheep insurance to protect my pride & joy.;)
bargunhuntr
10-27-2002, 20:37
Hey Cajungeo,
The cheapest bolt buffer I've found is at Home Depot. I bought a foot of (I think) 1/4" O.D. 7/64" I.D. feul line like for lawn mowers or weed eaters, cut that down to 1,1/4" and installed. Me and shooting buddy have put approx. 2,500 rnd. thru our 10-22's since installation and no problems yet. I cut up the rest and gave them out to other 10-22 owners at the range. I was going to cut down a 7/64" drill bit and use it as a "core" for the hollow line but never did. the result is softer recoil less wear on rec. holes and more of a bump feeling rather than a smack. If I remember it was .92 cents per foot. SCORE!:D
Another big reason for the plastic bolt buffers to replace the metal ones is for people who have suppressed rifles. When the loudest part of shooting is the bolt hitting that steel pin, it's nice to be able to quiet it down a bit for $5.
cajungeo
10-28-2002, 17:01
Bargunhntr, I like your way of thinking. I'm always trying to get something cheaper, but you are the cheapest. Now I mean that in a good way. Thanks for the tip. ;)
MoeMentum
05-13-2004, 11:48
I wouldn't sweat it on a $149.00 rifle. When it won't go bang anymore, I'll go and get another one....
I wouldn't sweat it on a $149.00 rifle. When it won't go bang anymore, I'll go and get another one....
LOL - wish I only had $149.00 in my 10/22 (not really - too much fun building them). Last count it was well over - hum :ph34r: mm - wife may be looking - the price of 4.5 / 10/22s !!
;)
Originally posted by Coyote@May 13 2004, 10:56 AM
I wouldn't sweat it on a $149.00 rifle. When it won't go bang anymore, I'll go and get another one....
LOL - wish I only had $149.00 in my 10/22 (not really - too much fun building them). Last count it was well over - hum :ph34r: mm - wife may be looking - the price of 4.5 / 10/22s !!
;)
Ditto! I started mine as a stress relief project, and it has turned into an obsession. I would say, close to $350 so far :blink: the bolt buffer was probably the cheapest part!
Hey I've been useing the same thing, before you put it in the gun heat up the hotglue gun and shoot the fuel line full till it runs out the other end. I've been useing it since last winter works like a charm...........
ruger22com
05-15-2004, 15:55
Here is the bottom line on bolt buffers from the horses mouth as it were (Though I have been described as another part of the horses anatomy!) :lol:
There have never been a validated case showing elongated holes or a cracked receiver caused by the steel buffer pin in the ruger 10/22 receiver. These rumors have been spread by people selling homemade buffers of low quality out of there basements. There is no fact in them at all! :o
So then, why buy a bolt buffer? A QUALITY buffer (not a two piece that will wear out and rust) but one made from a special polyurethane formula SPECIFIED for this use, and that will last forever...does two things for you.
1) it protects your expensive optics (Scopes, etc) by eliminating bolt shock. With a good buffer you should be able to feel nothing, no shock at all on the top of your receiver and scope when the rifle is fired.
2) It eliminates that anoying loud CLUNK noise made when the bolt slams into the steel pin. Not only is it anoying, but it can contribute to scaring away game if your hunting.
And those are the REAL facts about bolt buffers. :2guns:
And there you have it guys! :D
Hmmm.... I wonder when the last time a thread from 2002 was "revived"! :lol:
Whoa!
Take Care! - Dakotan
Reviving a thred from 2002 is good, but Cajun, you may want to update/fix your link..I get a 404 at it, had to use Dakotan's.
cajungeo
05-16-2004, 19:16
His site probably changed since I posted. It is updated now.
Thanks cajungeo! :D
Take Care! - Dakotan
MoeMentum
05-18-2004, 13:26
I just wonder , it the bolt buffer from Ruger was plastic, would everybody be calling them cheap, and replacing them with steel ? Just a thought....
Not me. Before I swap to a Weaver base and rings, I was using the factory dovetail mount with dovetail rings. No matter how tight I clamped down the rings, after about 400-500 rounds, just a good day at the range, the scope would have almost been recoiled right off the front of the darn mount. The buffer stopped that.
After I went to a weaver mount, I kept thinking what all that reoil shock would be doing to my scope. I know a .22LR is pretty wimpy in the recoil department, but if there is a way NOT to transfer recoil to the scope, I'll take it.
Plus, its MUCH quiter, and much more pleasurable to shoot.
--Paul
MoeMentum
05-24-2004, 09:39
Ok, you guys sold me, I just sprung for a Weaponkraft, Dakotan bolt buffer for $7.00. The only reason I ordered one, is because, my scope keeps getting knocked out of zero. Now my $149.00 rifle is worth $156.00.
cajungeo
05-24-2004, 16:49
my scope keeps getting knocked out of zero. Now my $149.00 rifle is worth $156.00.
Another way to look at it; A scope that keeps getting knocked out of zero is worth zero. With the bolt buffer reducing impact of bolt slamming into the steel bolt stop It's now worth $156.
Moe another thing that will keep your scope from sliding around is replace the dovetail mount and rings with a weaver type mount $5 and up, and weaver rings $11 and up. If you want a cheap fix bed dove tail mount groves with JB Weld. It will keep the rings from sliding. I did it, and it works.
MoeMentum
05-24-2004, 18:07
Thanks for the tip, after I install the buffer, I will do just that.
MoeMentum, if you ordered yesterday, paid by PayPal, and live in NJ your Buffer is already on the way! :D
Thanks Much!
Take Care! - Dakotan
MoeMentum
05-25-2004, 12:22
Yes, Dakotan that was me, thanks ....
Dorkface
06-16-2004, 15:18
i decided to try the cheap way. i got myself a 25ft coil of 1/4 polyethelene tubing from work for like 1.50. the dia fits well and i filled the inside with glue from a hot glue gun. while i was in there i took out the bolt and and polished it up and the top of the reciver with some jewlers rouge and my dremel. net result was a nice smooth action and alot lets noise all around. :)
bushwack
06-28-2004, 10:33
I've been using Dakotan's buffer & take down screws since her put them on the market & have never had any problems with either. They are a buffer, nothing more & well worth the price.
Bushwack
cajungeo
06-28-2004, 16:00
I'm going to get a couple of his take down screws too, as my slotted ones are kinda chewed up. The socket head will fit my torque wrench better.
Dorkface
06-28-2004, 23:58
well had the first chance to check out the way the buffer i made works today, and my friend also had his. Mine was way more quite then his. infact here in the next couple of days im making one for him too lol. :D :ar15:
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