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Old 08-06-2012, 06:34   #1
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Common XTM M Rail cover AR 15 Question.

I know just about everybody these days has threw some rail covers on there ar 15 at some point or another. There are the seldom few has stayed away from this. I have finally tried to see how they are, bought mine, received them.

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I put 1 set then another set, then I can't put another one end to end with the other cover. I dk why, but if i make a gap I can fit them no problem. Ill take a picture later and add to help show what i am talking about.

But feel free to throw some advice, or maybe explain to me why its doing this. I dk. thanks in advance.
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I just put them on mine a couple days ago, the only problem I've had is when I grab the rail a couple come loose. They look cool but I don't think they'll stay on !
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Old 08-06-2012, 13:06   #3
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Originally Posted by sharky8js View Post
I just put them on mine a couple days ago, the only problem I've had is when I grab the rail a couple come loose. They look cool but I don't think they'll stay on !
had that problem at first, then i made sure they were tight n snapped securely n now there fine. my only problem is i can't put them all side by side, i can do two but then have to skip a lil space n do the other two

if you look closely you can see what im talking about
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i don't know, looked up solutions on the web, youtube, just about everywhere. seems im the only one having this problem.
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looks like you started on the edge you should be able to see the edge of the rail on front and back, try moving over one notch leaving 1/4" of the rail exposed, by the time you reach the other end, you'll have 1/4" left.
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Originally Posted by sharky8js View Post
looks like you started on the edge you should be able to see the edge of the rail on front and back, try moving over one notch leaving 1/4" of the rail exposed, by the time you reach the other end, you'll have 1/4" left.
Yea, if i let it hang back on the front it sticks off the back, same way from the back if i start on the back n start with a gap it hands off on the front. so seems it should fit evenly, i tried starting from the ends n working to the middle but then that last piece just don't wanna clip together.
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Old 08-07-2012, 12:26   #7
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nvm took the end of my fixed blade knife, and kinda did a tappin motion in the center and fixed it, got the ends to meet and closed and latched like it was suppose to. Thanks for the help.
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No rail covers here. I prefer the hand guards like the Troy Industries - - Alpha Rail No Sight 11" Blk or the Daniel Defense - - Modular Float Rail 12" ( MFR ) DD-09079 with the continuous rail top but with modular rails on the sides so I can place the rails where I want, if I want. With setups like these I find little need for rail covers.
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Originally Posted by CGS View Post
No rail covers here. I prefer the hand guards like the Troy Industries - - Alpha Rail No Sight 11" Blk or the Daniel Defense - - Modular Float Rail 12" ( MFR ) DD-09079 with the continuous rail top but with modular rails on the sides so I can place the rails where I want, if I want. With setups like these I find little need for rail covers.

yea i like that set up, but i picked up a quad rail that just simply replaces the plastic hand guards. Carbine Length Quad Rail Handguard fits stag rock bush yhm lmt fits them all !! | eBay
n for the price ya can't beat it. i like the troy setup though. do you run one of these on your ar, n if so whats your opinions on it? n which one?
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I personally run the Daniel Defense MFR 12.0 on my own AR.

I just completed a build, today as a matter of fact, using the Troy Alpha rail. Troy is cheaper and easier to install, though the Daniel defense isn't necessarily "hard" just requires you to replace the barrel nut with a proprietary barrel nut. The troy uses the standard barrel nut.

The troy is a little rougher which may increase purchase but is rough enough that has me wondering if used in combat or competition may scratch up your hand, but not nearly as bad as a quad rail would. Gloves would solve this no problem.

Though I never weighed either I believe that the troy alpha is a few grams heavier than the daniel defense mfr.
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love the barrel!! yea thats my thing with the quad, after i put it on with my forward grip and small flashlight/laser it added some weight but the grip weighs almost nothing. i've even thought about going back to regular handguards. idk. hey quick question since we are talking about AR's, you ever heard of the EOTECH products? what you think about them.
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Barrel is a 16" mid length heavy from Rock River Arms with battle comp.

Yeah I have heard of Eotech, so has this little organization called the United States Army

Seriously though Eotech makes great red dot sights, and even magnifiers. They are a little bit costly so watch out for counterfeit. Pretty much if you spend less than $300 for a new eotech you are getting ripped off. But there are multiple lines, with and without night vision capability, witha nd without magnifier, with and without camo.

I was going to put an Eotech XPS on my AR, but opted for the Burris XTR instead.
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Yea I was in the army, national guard m16 multi switch with basic sights, never seen eo tech on any of there weapons, maybe it was a infantry treat haha. I was truck driver (88m), yea i was looking into them and I was interested in the 512 series dot, with a 3x magnifier, pretty price of 409 for sight before taxes, shipping, et cetera. (SCP-7512 - 512 Tactical Holographic Weapon Sight EOTech 65 MOA Circle 1 MOA Aiming Dot Reticle AA Battery), n magnifier for about 100 before everything (SCP-975 - 3x Tactical Magnifer STS Sightmark Includes Heavy Duty Slide-To-Side 30mm Quick Detach Mount) wanted to get advice on them before i went an spent the money.

& do you think the front A sight would conflict with it, work with it, or what so i know to add a gas block. Lol. I really should just try it n find out for myself but I kinda wanna know so i know in advance. But im already put/putting over a thousand in it already
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$409 is a little pricey. I've seen the Eotech 512 with camo for $360. Eotech

My personal opinion is that the 512 is rather large. I personally like the XPS. That doesn't mean it's bad, just big.

Personally i feel you should run fixed irons with a non magnified red dot, and run flip ups with a scope. You can get risers and spacers if you want to co-witness the eotech with your irons.
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so you'd run a magnifier in beween ur read and front sights?
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Since I run a rail and don't have a front sight, this is what I would personally do...

I would mount a removable front sight and rear sight to my rail. If I were running a red dot those would be fixed. If I were running a scope (or a red dot with magnifier such as the eotech g23 fts) then those would be flip up for reasons of room and spacing.

You'd be perfectly fine with no BACKUP sites if you were going t othe range but in competition or combat you should have a backup.
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Ya this was my plan. Remove front fixed sight, run troy flip up rear n front. N run that eo tech. You ever heard bcm (sure u have), I'm running there bcm bolt, n have a charging handle on order. But thanks man. You been a big help.
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I have a badger tactical charging latch which I put on my standard charging handle. It's a must with a scope, but there is alot of flex with the tactical latches on standard handles, you either need a reinforced one one like the BCM or something steel.
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yea thats the one i have order, Bravo company mid latch charging handle, thought the large one was too much and the small one was tiny, but i heard they are a lot harder to snap like some have
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