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Old 05-26-2010, 00:25   #1
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Never Use a Bore Snake, ruined my AR 15

I dont get on forums much but I want to spread the word about something. I've always used bore snakes and they have been pretty handy, but now I'm never going to use one again. I'm a patient guy but right now I'm pretty ****ed off. When I was cleaning my ar 15 today my bore snake got lodged in the barrel, and I mean it is freaking stuck. I tied the end to a tree and pulled, cut the end off and tried to get a cleaning rod down the barrel, and tried to tap it through from the chamber-out but just ended up getting my cleaning rod stuck in the bore snake material. So now I have a useless 750 dollar gun, and I don't know what to do do. I'm short on cash, buying the gun was a stretch but I really wanted it, and now I'm screwed. I've contacted DPMS and hopefully they will help me out, they are already a month behind on sending me a return package for my upper since the front sight was canted, and I'm going to beg them to do something about the stuck bore snack. All in all, I'm pretty sick with the whole situation right now, and I don't know what to do.
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Relax and let it be for a day. Tomorrow when You have had time to think I suggest that you see why it jammed in the first place? Was it the correct size? (we all make mistakes). Forcing it with the tree bit was a little harsh and didn't do you any favors. Is there a way to start pulling back out from the bore without doing damage? Shoving a rod can ding your rifling and just jam it more. I have used Boresnakes on a dozen different guns, from bolts to autos and never had that happen. Don't let your emotions do any more damage, might take it to a reputable 'smith and have them look at it before you do any thing else. Good luck. I am going to move this thread to the AR forum, perhaps you can get some suggestions there.
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Old 05-26-2010, 00:53   #3
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I got the tree idea from a forum and the guy said it worked for his when it got stuck, and I'm sure its the correct size I only have one bore snake and its .22 caliber. I have no idea why its stuck, I shined a light on it and it seems like its in there right, the only thing I can think is that the bore snake twisted just perfectly when it entered the barrel that it jammed itself up and is stuck.
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i fixed it! lol. I tried almost everything, and when I was about ready to call it quits i thought about just using leverage, so i got my multi tools, twisted it up in the cord 2x till it was tight against the flash hider, then spent about 30 minutes moving it a mm at a time by twisting the multi tool. Its out now, and i looked down the barrel and the rifling seems undamaged, so i guess i got lucky.
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Switch over to Wipeout foaming bore cleaner and patches.
It will get it cleaner and you won't end up in that situation.
I've tested the Wipeout by following up with Sweets, and there was zero copper, the Wipeout got it all.
I haven't put a brush down my barrel in a couple years now.

Glad you got it out of there.

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Old 05-26-2010, 11:06   #6
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I have a lot of respect for DPMS now, I emailed them and they apologized for the delay in contacting me and are going to pay the shipping both ways, fix the canted sight and they were going to remove the bore snake for free as well.
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Glad to hear everything turned out for the good. Now get out and do some relaxing
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Glad it worked out for you, and good for DPMS to offer their help.
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Old 05-27-2010, 19:46   #9
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Personally, I've had great luck using Hoppe's BoreSnake product.

I've used it on several calibers, including:
* .223
* .308 Win / 7.62x39
* 12 Gauge
* 9mm

It's does a great job of cleaning moderate "gunk" out of the barrel. And, it's easy on the barrel too.

Best part? They're FAST!

Generally, I spray a little brake cleaner on the material just ahead of the sewn-in bristles and it does a fantastic job of cleaning the barrel.

Admittedly, there are sometimes when I like (or need) to bust out the rod and patches...and I am fine with that. But, for general quick-cleaning, a BoreSnake does the job.

BTW, Jacob, I'm sorry to hear you ran into some snags (no pun intended) with your boresnake, but for the most part, this is a great product that I have a personal track record with. And, frankly speaking, I think they rock!

Finally, I recently got "turned-on" to DPMS (about 6 months now). In short, I'm not only impressed with their products (quality and variety), but also their Customer Service. As a result, I'm starting to combine DPMS components with my RRA components, and with quite good results to boot.

Let us know how it works out.
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Old 05-29-2010, 21:52   #10
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I never had a problem with the Bore Snake and my Mini-14. My CMMG upper, OTOH, is a tight squeeze. Same snake, different rifle. I've found that sometimes the snake gets stuck on the teeth around the chamber. It helps to remove the upper, pull the BCG, then run the snake through the upper (not the ejection port) when using it. Funny thing is, I don't have this problem with either of my 6.8 uppers. ???

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Good to hear you got it removed,.....however,
Only two things could have led to it getting stuck.
Wrong size, or it somehow kinked when being inserted.

I use them ONLY as a final drying tool after normal cleaning.
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Old 05-31-2010, 14:55   #12
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sure it wasn't a 30 cal you stuck in it by mistake?.....i have used boresnakes for years....the only 1 thats a little tight is the .17 cal...
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I heard another guy do this. He had a knot in the Boresnake and didn't realize it.
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I use them in 22, 357, 45 and 50 calibers. No problems so far. Glad you got yours fixed.
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you got a bore snake stuck? Obviously you are doing something wrong.
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Don't be too quick to blame him. I have 2 bore snakes, one used once, the other new and will never be used.

The one used once, was so freakin tight (yes 22 cal in 223 barrel) I couldn't believe how tight it was. I was worried I might do the same thing (break it in the barrel) so I have never used it since.

Sorry for all you snake fans, but I do not like them. Good idea, poor quality control. I'll be getting a coated cable to pull my std brushes through from now on.
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Sounds like a great time to buy a custom barrel!
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The one used once, was so freakin tight (yes 22 cal in 223 barrel) I couldn't believe how tight it was.
You mean you had it wrapped around your hand twice, pulling like you were landing a salmon?

Sounds normal to me.
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Originally Posted by Evil_Lurker View Post
You mean you had it wrapped around your hand twice, pulling like you were landing a salmon?

Sounds normal to me.
+1. I do use boresnakes on a first pass because the extra contact surface cuts down on cleaning time, but not exclusively . . . I do the rest with an Otis cable.

I've had more jams, if you will, with Otis's than with boresnakes, but that's usually my own user error in over-folding the patch.
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Originally Posted by handirifle View Post
The one used once, was so freakin tight (yes 22 cal in 223 barrel) I couldn't believe how tight it was. I was worried I might do the same thing (break it in the barrel) so I have never used it since.
I've noticed that on the .22 one I used on my AR. Didn't have the same problem with the 270 or 308 one. I have yet to break one.

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Very intersting. If you ever determine what caused the BoreSnake to bind, please let us know.

I use BoreSnakes in different calibers, as well. Despite them being pretty tight is some guns, I haven't had any binding issues.

I also have a few Knockout 2-pass cleaning kits. These are very similar to the BoreSnake, but the brass brush is separate from the rope (hence the '2-pass'). Both pieces pull through nicely and with slightly less resitance than my BoreSnake. This is probably because the KnockOut system is .22 caliber, and not .223 like the BoreSnake. I keep the Knockout kit in my range bag.

http://www.amazon.com/caliber-KnockO.../dp/B000FGWQ4M

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In the past 30 years of firearms ownership, I've never had a bore snake stuck in the barrel of any gun I've owned. However, I have had a copper brush stuck in the barrel of a rifle, and nearly broke off a brush in a revolver.

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Originally Posted by ghitch75 View Post
sure it wasn't a 30 cal you stuck in it by mistake?.....i have used boresnakes for years....the only 1 thats a little tight is the .17 cal...
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I have several and the 17 is really tight. The only time I have seen a stuck one was a guy put a 6mm snake in a 5.56 bore. He did the same thing, twisted it tight and inched it out.
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Originally Posted by handirifle View Post
Don't be too quick to blame him. I have 2 bore snakes, one used once, the other new and will never be used.

The one used once, was so freakin tight (yes 22 cal in 223 barrel) I couldn't believe how tight it was. I was worried I might do the same thing (break it in the barrel) so I have never used it since.

Sorry for all you snake fans, but I do not like them. Good idea, poor quality control. I'll be getting a coated cable to pull my std brushes through from now on.
I pay shipping & handling if you no longer want them.
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My first NEGATIVE experience with a boresnake was ALSO in a DPMS rifle... its my 24" Stainless varminter... I just got the boresnake and was at the range doing some load testing, and cleaning between shots with the snake...

I dropped the weight through the open chamber... got it with my other hand, went to move the rifle for better leverage... and TRIPPED THE BOLT RELEASE!
I heard a loud "CHINK" and the weighted part dropped out onto my hand... NEATLY SEVERING the boresnake at the chamber.

I took it home and stitched it together, and it is still usable, although a bit ugly... but I only use it on the shorter 223 calibers now... like the Saiga rifles...

Of course this was NO ONES fault but my own... and I can accept blame rather easily... I am sure the look on my face was priceless when the bolt slammed home! LOL!!


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