Finaly got some range time.... - Shooting Sports Forum


AR-15 Talk AR-15 General Interest

Like Tree14Likes
  • 1 Post By magnomark
  • 1 Post By RabidDog79
  • 1 Post By chill1955
  • 1 Post By COBrien
  • 2 Post By rutro
  • 2 Post By rutro
  • 1 Post By dh1633pm
  • 1 Post By Marlin 45 carbine
  • 1 Post By rutro
  • 1 Post By dh1633pm
  • 1 Post By COBrien
  • 1 Post By dh1633pm
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-19-2017, 15:01   #1
Full Member
 
rutro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Log Cabin, TX
Posts: 1,579
Finaly got some range time....

I got to shoot the "new", 20" full stock free float I built about 2 years ago. That and the 16" carbine I've had for a long time, just re-barreled with an AR Stoner Midway nitrided barrel.
I'm loving the 20", just need a little better trigger. I ordered the improved trigger set from Midway and a set of light springs. I'll see how it does for the bench. I was zeroing the new scope on the 10/22 while I was between groups with the AR. It has a nice target trigger on it and the difference between them was so different. Every time I did my part that 10/22 was busting out one ragged little hole. While the AR was, trigger heavy. About every 3rd shot I would pull it while trying to squeeze one off. Messed up every group.

The carbine was just as ever. The BUIS worked out great. I'm going to leave the carry handle on it for a while, I like the way it shot. Of course I just shot at 50 yrds. this time. But that's about as far as I'll ever need to shoot in these woods, usually much less.
__________________
Josey Wales said: ďI ainít promising you nothing extra. Iím just giving you life and youíre giving me life. And Iím saying that men can live together without butchering one another.Ē
rutro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 12:27   #2
hostilenativelibertarian.
 
magnomark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Oragun-still clinging to my religion,guns,and sour mash!Livin near the most godless American city.
Posts: 6,860
Hey there old spark-are you getting them black guns all figured out?I put together some back in the "obozo"regime days,havent got a one of them "broke in" yet!(they say it takes about 400 rds for break in)I guess I'll need to load some more stuff to at least knock off the high spots in the barrels!.I just don't believe in bore compound!
REM1875 likes this.
__________________
...magnomark...
I will stand with the "crackers"should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
...Just take the shot...
Don't bother me-I'm reloading!
magnomark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2017, 09:34   #3
Full Member
 
rutro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Log Cabin, TX
Posts: 1,579
I hear ya, I can't get one broke in yet either. Got to love these AR's now. They will Shoot!! New trigger should be in this mornings mail. Then I can go burn some more ammo at the range. This new range has some cool stuff, a steel plate course, a shoot house, etc. Once I get things shot in I got to hit the plate course. I have not done any of that in years.....
__________________
Josey Wales said: ďI ainít promising you nothing extra. Iím just giving you life and youíre giving me life. And Iím saying that men can live together without butchering one another.Ē
rutro is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Old 03-21-2017, 10:55   #4
Full Member
 
RabidDog79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: PA
Posts: 10
Had it for 2 years and just now taking it out? Dang that's patience!
REM1875 likes this.
RabidDog79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2017, 16:12   #5
Full Member
 
rutro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Log Cabin, TX
Posts: 1,579
To many honey do's. I put the trigger in today, https://www.midwayusa.com/product/40...4-single-stage. It is nice for a milspec trigger group. The trigger and hammer are plated with a nickle and PTFE coating. I touched them up with the Dremmel and a polish and cleaner compound that made it shine like chrome. I tried it out with the milspec springs and it was sweet. Broke like a glass rod. Heavy but not bad. Then I put the light hammer spring in and it was more better. Of course the first time it fails to ignite it's out of there. But some of the reviews I've read on these say no problem. Maybe I can do it justice now at the range.
__________________
Josey Wales said: ďI ainít promising you nothing extra. Iím just giving you life and youíre giving me life. And Iím saying that men can live together without butchering one another.Ē

Last edited by rutro; 03-24-2017 at 11:44.
rutro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2017, 20:58   #6
Full Member
 
chill1955's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 2,137
I was a mini toting AR scoffer until I bought one. There is a reason it has sustained itself through the decades. It is an awesome machine.
REM1875 likes this.
__________________
Sine Missione
chill1955 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2017, 05:12   #7
Full Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: out in the country..1,327 meters from nearest neighbor
Posts: 1,504
Originally Posted by chill1955 View Post
I was a mini toting AR scoffer until I bought one. There is a reason it has sustained itself through the decades. It is an awesome machine.
Absolutely. Ergonomic, light recoil, etc. Everything you need to shoot accurately, quickly. Just doesn't have alot of horsepower. Also, it's not too intimidating for women/smaller statured men. I teach a class for WITO called "getting to know the AR15" After about 30 min classroom instruction, we head to the 100 yrd rifle range, go over firing and clearing procedures(again), They fire 20 rnds, from 2 magazines. Most are able to shoot 4 moa groups w/ iron sights the first time around. My students have ranged in age from 16 to 82. The most often thing i hear after the class is "That was fun. Where can I get one? Can I buy yours?".
I then steer them towards appleseed to further their rifle skills. They truly are the modern day musket of the masses. Although, I must admit, I don't fool with carbines. My "shorty" is 18 1/2", and that one belongs to my wife. Firm believer in velocity.
Rutro-
I'm so glad you're having fun, and getting good results.
__________________
Rangers lead the way-All the way.
2005 series 1 co-champion-scope class- in the brotherhood of true marksmen.
2005 series 2, modded barrel class champion-
MOA club member
2rangers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2017, 07:43   #8
Super Member
 
COBrien's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: OK
Posts: 2,449
Originally Posted by chill1955 View Post
I was a mini toting AR scoffer until I bought one. There is a reason it has sustained itself through the decades. It is an awesome machine.
Me too. When all my buddies were out buying and Barbie-dolling AR-15s, I was fiddling with my Mini-14.

Then a deal came along that I couldn't pass up -- a DPMS LR-308T, new in box, with a Weaver 3-12x50 scope mounted. $850.

Threw in an RRA 2-stage trigger (I now realize that was money wasted...), broke it in, and the sickness set in. Swapped gas block, handguard, buffer and spring, grip, and brake. Now considering a LaRue MBT-2S trigger, Criterion 18" medium contour barrel (with rifle gas), and, at some point, a Sig SRD762QD suppressor.

I'm now secretly building a 5.56 AR Dissipator (a real one, not a middy with an extra FSB) until I can get permission from the wife. Then I'll magically come home with a rifle...

The AR15/M16 platform really is as good as it gets, mostly due to the modular nature of the system.
2rangers likes this.
COBrien is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2017, 12:05   #9
Full Member
 
rutro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Log Cabin, TX
Posts: 1,579
Hey I was never going to let one of those black guns in my house, Mini14 forever. Then people started having those problems with firing pins. I started looking around. I hate the thought of having to send something back to the factory for a simple thing like that.....
Then at the range one day a guy showed up with an AR10. He got set up and proceeded to pound away with that 308, he went through several mags. I was sitting down the way with my spotting scope watching his target. The x-ring was just a hole kind'a ragged at the edges, at 100yds. Nuff said....

Ranger said;
Rutro-
I'm so glad you're having fun, and getting good results.
You are a mighty fine man 2Rangers. I can't do something very long if I'm not having fun, and I've been shooting since I was just a sprout. Next I've got to get my Howa .308 back out and get it broke in. Can't wait to work up a good load for that one.
__________________
Josey Wales said: ďI ainít promising you nothing extra. Iím just giving you life and youíre giving me life. And Iím saying that men can live together without butchering one another.Ē
rutro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2017, 12:21   #10
Full Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: out in the country..1,327 meters from nearest neighbor
Posts: 1,504
Rutro-
Try 42.0 grns imr4064, a 175 sierra matchking, seated to 2.800". It should shoot well.
Also, doesn't glend arms make replacement firing pins? I thought brownells stocked them?
__________________
Rangers lead the way-All the way.
2005 series 1 co-champion-scope class- in the brotherhood of true marksmen.
2005 series 2, modded barrel class champion-
MOA club member
2rangers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2017, 09:26   #11
Full Member
 
rutro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Log Cabin, TX
Posts: 1,579
I will definitely try that one. I'm still stocking up on bullets. I've got some 150gr. and 168gr. MatchKing. From what I've read the heavier bullets are better for accuracy. It's been a while since I checked on firing pins for the mini. I know they make 'em, but every time I think about it they are sold out. One of these days I'll hit it right and get an extra or two. After I thought about that mini for a while it dawned on me that if I was going to break it, it would have happened a long time ago. I've settled down quite q bit, not nearly as hard on 'em as I used to be!!
__________________
Josey Wales said: ďI ainít promising you nothing extra. Iím just giving you life and youíre giving me life. And Iím saying that men can live together without butchering one another.Ē
rutro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2017, 09:38   #12
Full Member
 
dh1633pm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Central New York
Posts: 5,292
I have a Rock River Arms Trigger on my DPMS single shot lower. I like it. Co-Brian if you want to part with it, I am game. Rutro what was the specific trigger that you got for yours?
Marlin 45 carbine likes this.
dh1633pm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2017, 10:03   #13
Full Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: same as before but 'cleaned up' my info
Posts: 6,537
good to see another of your informative posts rutro.
2rangers likes this.
__________________
'the beatings will continue until morale improves'
Marlin 45 carbine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2017, 13:32   #14
Full Member
 
rutro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Log Cabin, TX
Posts: 1,579
Hey dh1633pm it's just their AR Stoner enhanced trigger group. It has a hard nickle plating with PTFE and that nickle is so hard you can polish it without having to worry to much about burning through. I tried it without polishing first and it was way better than the average MilSpec group. Just a bit heavy for what I wanted to do. After I hit it with the dremmel and a felt wheel it was like chrome, and some kind'a slick. I treated it with some MilTec1 anyway and put it back in and that is the nicest $30 trigger I've ever had. Checked it after I put the JP reduced power hammer spring on and it's right at 3#11-12oz. pull weight. Not bad for a single stage trigger. It has just a little take up but breaks clean.
2rangers likes this.
__________________
Josey Wales said: ďI ainít promising you nothing extra. Iím just giving you life and youíre giving me life. And Iím saying that men can live together without butchering one another.Ē

Last edited by rutro; 03-25-2017 at 16:21.
rutro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2017, 13:39   #15
Full Member
 
dh1633pm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Central New York
Posts: 5,292
Thanks Rutro. That is excellent to hear. I just ordered one.
2rangers likes this.
dh1633pm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2017, 09:33   #16
Super Member
 
COBrien's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: OK
Posts: 2,449
Originally Posted by dh1633pm View Post
I have a Rock River Arms Trigger on my DPMS single shot lower. I like it. Co-Brian if you want to part with it, I am game. Rutro what was the specific trigger that you got for yours?
It's not that I don't like the trigger -- I do -- but I've read lots of posts where the RRA 2-Stage will start doubling and/or following the bolt after anywhere from 300-1000 rounds.

I'd planned on running it 'til it quits, then replacing it with an MBT, but I may take you up on your offer. Just depends on if/when LaRue puts the MBT back on sale...
2rangers likes this.
COBrien is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2017, 12:20   #17
Full Member
 
dh1633pm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Central New York
Posts: 5,292
Originally Posted by COBrien View Post
It's not that I don't like the trigger -- I do -- but I've read lots of posts where the RRA 2-Stage will start doubling and/or following the bolt after anywhere from 300-1000 rounds.

I'd planned on running it 'til it quits, then replacing it with an MBT, but I may take you up on your offer. Just depends on if/when LaRue puts the MBT back on sale...
Please feel free. I had a DPMS Heavy Barrel 308. I traded some Wolf 308 Ammo for a Geiselle SSA trigger that I got from a friend that works at Bushmaster (Remington Arms in Ilion NY). That was a sweet trigger as well.
2rangers likes this.
dh1633pm is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Use Lasers to Stay Trained and Sighted in Without Range Time AllOutdoor.com All Outdoor 0 02-03-2014 11:30
First time at the range thmose51 Ruger Mini-14 and Mini-30 7 12-27-2013 16:57
Scout Range Time Pics sandog Ruger Mini-14 and Mini-30 7 12-25-2013 19:57
First time at an indoor range jhs1970426 Ruger 10/22 7 12-03-2009 17:42
1st time at range with mimi-14 pksman Ruger Mini-14 and Mini-30 4 04-25-2004 09:55


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 22:15.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1
All information is copyright by Perfectunion.com unless already under copyright.