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Old 08-18-2012, 18:03   #1
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WASR 10 double stack at Dunhams

Gentlefolk,
Saw an ad for a WASR 10 double stack at Dunhams for $430. Is this a jump on it now price or an OK price for a modest piece? I dont know where the WASRs stand in the AK quality rainbow.

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Old 08-18-2012, 18:20   #2
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They are good shooters to average, mostly a little better than average, the craftsmanship is OKAY, just make sure to inspect the rifle you are buying before purchasing it, watch out for canted gasblock etc, pull the bolt, see if it sticks. there are some bad ones out there, mostly average, and some really good. just depends on what you end up with. It is an AK and will go bang nearly every time, the furniture is usually ugly but can be refinished under 20 dollars. Trigger slap may or may not be a problem, depending what you end up with ( don't think it's a problem in the newer versions). For the price its about 20% off from normal price which is a good deal IMO, if it was the one near my house, i would go purchase one.

also for 150 dollars more you can get a converted (accepts ak mags) Saiga that has a chrome lined barrel, better build quality
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Old 08-19-2012, 07:44   #3
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Good info, Sog, thank you. What is a good source for Saigas?

My LGS has a $45 transfer fee, so I always have to factor that in when I do an internet order.

Also, I have seen the comments about canted gas blocks but don't know enough about AKs to know what to look for. Could you offer a gas block primer?
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Old 08-19-2012, 18:50   #4
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for more information on the saiga platform

forum.Saiga-12.com

you will get a ton of help from there

centerfire_AUGUST-SEPTEMBER2012

as for anything canted, make sure the weapon is unloaded and basically look down the rifle barrel up to see if anything is not aligned, it will be slanted, usually the sights will be canted (normal for cheaper AK's) can be fixed with a hammer or just take out the pin etc.. if the gasblock is canted don't even bother with the weapon.

that website has the cheapest saiga as far as i know, i know it's more money but i think it's worth every penny, i was going to get that rifle but i decided to get the saiga in .308, when i get a tax refund next year i will definitely get that AK or at least the one in .223.

you can expect 4-5 MOA out of the WASR typically, i have seen better and i have seen up to 8 MOA, you may get better with the saiga, 3 MOA but it will be more consistent, most people don't run optics (scopes) on a AK other than red dot so they can do better.

if you just want a AK style rifle, you should definitely consider the saiga in 223/7.62x39/.308, 223 starts at 400, x39 at 400+(for magwell conversion), and .308 at 600, i ended up with the .308 last week, shot it yesterday before i move onto modding the weapon, i was hitting 2" groups, around 3-4 after the barrel heated up, definitely a good purchase, it can do better, but i am satisfied.

Don't worry about the whole MOA thing, it's a stupid internet thing to get caught up with, most of us will never have real application for MOA, just get something that is in your price range and will go bang every time (basically what most AK's will do), if money is tight, it is a ok to good price for WASR, it will serve you well for a hog gun, home defense, urban combat (if you're into SHTF) or plinking/having a good time, if accuracy is an issue, they will do fine to 200 yards with a good shooter, hell i have even seen up to 400. the ammo is a lot cheaper for 7.62 x 39mm = more time shooting your rifle = more fun..either the wasr/saiga will eat any ammo,


another thing i forgot is the wasr has mag wobble but with tapco mags, they are very snug, if you don't have a converted saiga you can't accept normal mags for that rifle but there are aftermarket ("high cap mags"),
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Ok...guess I should state my interest...I am not sure what my interest is.... Donkeys ages ago I got a Russian SKS in 7.62x39. I had a hankering for a more modern long gun, so I got a Ruger Mini30 in 7.62.

So what I really need now is something in .223, but that is simply because...not overly impressed with the round itself.

So, do I need a Ruger AND AK/Saiga in 7.62... Well, no... But if the bang for buck is there... And an AK/Saiga may be more forgiving with ammo than the Ruger.

So, in short, I am open to all thoughts.

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I had good luck with a WASR. I shot it quite a bit, no problems at all. The only semi issue was the mags wouldn't insert as smoothly as my other AK's. Once you got the hang of how this rifle liked it, everything was good. I ended up selling it to a friend who loves it and has had no problems. Good gun at a fair price even though they're a bit more these days. As stated look at the sights before buying.
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Old 08-25-2012, 18:03   #7
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The sale is over now, so I will have to wait for my next must have opportunity...
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For what it's worth that price is not bad for that gun if they put it on sale again. That's only a little over what I paid for mine around 6 years ago, and nowadays they are wanting in the mid-$500s for them around here. As long as you can inspect it first to make sure there is nothing wrong with it, like a canted front sight, it will probably be good to go.

Mine has been a bargain. It may not be as refined as some of the more expensive AKs, being cosmetically a little rough around the edges with the furniture - but as someone else pointed out, that's easy enough to address. But's it's not a show-piece, it's an AK.

The only issue I can think of is that Tapco plastic mags would not fit it, but that's not a big deal at all since metal 30-round surplus mags still seem to be abundant and function fine. Otherwise it shoots fairly well and has been absolutely reliable. For the price that's what I really care about.

By the way, no trigger slap on mine. I hear about that, but out of the handfull of AKs I have shot over the past few years (including both of my Century AKs), I have never experienced it, so maybe it is more of a thing of the past.
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WASR-10s have been around the $400 price range for several years. But I imagine they will slowly creep up in price just like everything else.

There was once a time when an SKS cost $75. Look at them now going for well over $200, sometimes close to $300.

In the late 1980s Russian make AK-47s sold for $75 just like the SKS.

If you want a WASR-10, buy it before the price creeps up even more.
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Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
WASR-10s have been around the $400 price range for several years. But I imagine they will slowly creep up in price just like everything else.

There was once a time when an SKS cost $75. Look at them now going for well over $200, sometimes close to $300.

In the late 1980s Russian make AK-47s sold for $75 just like the SKS.

If you want a WASR-10, buy it before the price creeps up even more.
Goodpoints...my Ruskie SKS was $115 or so when I got it...
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