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Old 08-05-2012, 06:20   #1
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Shooting the Springfield Loaded - Need Advice - 1911 Video

I put my Springfield 1911 through its paces at the gun club Friday and I was pretty disappointed with how I did. I suspect it was a combination of factors: I had spent a good chunk before firing it, shooting my Glock 30. I have not had a good work out with my SA 1911 in a month or so.

But, I have to say, for whatever reason and I'm still not sure why, though I suspect it has mostly to do with sight picture differences, I consistently shoot my Ruger SR1911 more accurately.

Anyway, here's a video of the session, as always, I welcome your critiques and constructive criticism. I think I'm still getting too much finger on the trigger.

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Old 08-06-2012, 11:56   #2
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Hi Amsdorh, it seemed to me that you did a better job shooting the 1911 than the Glock?

Have you ever tried adding a laser grip to one of your .45 ACPs? You won't believe on how it changes practical shooting efficiency.

BTW, you never answered me on why you felt you needed to change out the Springfield hammer spring lock. Why did you feel you needed to do so?

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If your first shot is in the right spot i would think your trigger control would explain the others. try mixing in some dummy rounds and really focusing on a smooth trigger press. A low second shot is pretty indicative of pre-ignition push. Looks like you are in the A zone though, they can't all be winners....don't be so hard on yourself
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Originally Posted by ssb73q View Post
Hi Amsdorh, it seemed to me that you did a better job shooting the 1911 than the Glock?

Have you ever tried adding a laser grip to one of your .45 ACPs? You won't believe on how it changes practical shooting efficiency.

BTW, you never answered me on why you felt you needed to change out the Springfield hammer spring lock. Why did you feel you needed to do so?

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Sorry about that, just noticed your question. I just felt the SA ILS system is ridiculous and just more junk to break. Plus the new spring in it made my light trigger, even a tad lighter.
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Hi Amsdorf, hmmmmmmmmmm, "SA ILS system ridculous .. junk.." ?

I just purchased and installed the SA ILS flat mainspring housing for my Springfield stainless Ultra Compact V10 (pre ILS 1911). It was lower cost than other third party mainspring housings without the ILS and it adds the locking feature. The V10 functions just fine with the ILS. I am waiting for Midway to have the stainless SA ILS available for my Colt MkIV.

Having the ILS gives me the option of short term "locking" the gun in a car glovebox or trunk when I can't carry into a school or post office. It also gives me the option of locking the gun when my granddaughter is visiting without needing to put pistols in my gun safe.

I have an ILS on a .45 LC Taurus 450 that has never had an issue. I have never heard of any ILS failing. Have you or anyone else?

Any modified firearm will have issues raised if ever used in a defensive shooting. I would rather argue that I am making my firearms safer than trying to explain the removing of safety features.

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That's my point, the "locking feature" may be required by law in some states, so totally understandable, but if not, it is just a waste of space and one more thing to break, go wrong, a needless tinkering with JMB's design.

I would never leave guns out with children around.
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Originally Posted by Amsdorf View Post
That's my point, the "locking feature" may be required by law in some states, so totally understandable, but if not, it is just a waste of space and one more thing to break, go wrong, a needless tinkering with JMB's design.

I would never leave guns out with children around.
Hi Amsdorf, similar things can be said about "tinkering with JBM's design" when the Series 80 1911 came out. As soon as I purchased a Series 80 I also bought an aftermarket device that allowed removal of the firing pin block piston turning the gun into a Series 70 equivalent. In time, I returned the Series 80 back to the original configuration and have never had an issue with that pistol. Para Ordnance also adopted the Series 80 design. I don't think that Springfield Armory ever offered a Series 80 and IMO it is one reason that purists looking for the perfect 1911 trigger job select Springfield Armory 1911s as their basic 1911.

Having said that, I will resist anyone that tries or even thinks about putting a safety on a Colt SAA.

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To each his own, live and let live, it's [sort of] a free country.

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Originally Posted by ssb73q View Post
Hi Amsdorf, hmmmmmmmmmm, "SA ILS system ridculous .. junk.." ?

I just purchased and installed the SA ILS flat mainspring housing for my Springfield stainless Ultra Compact V10 (pre ILS 1911). It was lower cost than other third party mainspring housings without the ILS and it adds the locking feature. The V10 functions just fine with the ILS. I am waiting for Midway to have the stainless SA ILS available for my Colt MkIV.

Having the ILS gives me the option of short term "locking" the gun in a car glovebox or trunk when I can't carry into a school or post office. It also gives me the option of locking the gun when my granddaughter is visiting without needing to put pistols in my gun safe.

I have an ILS on a .45 LC Taurus 450 that has never had an issue. I have never heard of any ILS failing. Have you or anyone else?

Any modified firearm will have issues raised if ever used in a defensive shooting. I would rather argue that I am making my firearms safer than trying to explain the removing of safety features.

Regards,
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Hi, just a note that Midway again has the flat 1911 mainspring ILS assembly back in stock, see:
Springfield Armory Mainspring Housing Flattegral Locking System (ILS)

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The accuracy from one 1911 to another will vary due to the fit of the barrel bushing. Springfield tends to fit their barrel bushing a bit on the loose side (kinda helps with reliability). You may want to get an EGW barrel bushing it cut my groups by half with my SS Springfield Loaded. I had my smith fit the EGW thick flanged angled bore barrel bushing and immediately noticed much better results.

It has been my experience that Kimber has a consistantly accurate product of the three brands I've owned (5 Kimber, 3 Colt and 3 Springfield). I'm not saying the other brands can't or don't build accurate 1911's but Kimber builds them consistantly...

I'd try slowing down your firing tempo and concentrate on the fundamentals.

Have you tried different ammo? I've had different results with different ammo. often.

I too remove the ILS from all my Springfields as I see no need for it, nor do I care for the proprietary mainspring. I also remove the FLGR and put the GI style in
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Establish and maintain your grip. Break the habit of releasing and reacquiring your grip. Constantly re-gripping the pistol is a bad habit, and may be part of your erratic groupings.
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I'm sure that's a factor, thanks.
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Amsdorf, one thing I noticed in your video is that your support hand thumb is on the slide. If you try placing your thumb on the frame I think that it would help.

My support hand thumb stays put right in front of the slide release.

Hope it helps. Good luck.
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Thanks, appreciate it.
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My Springfield Armory 1911 came from the factory with a smooth breaking but fairly heavy trigger. Before I got the trigger worked on I found that getting solid contact with the non-dominant hand kept me from pulling the shots with the heavier trigger.
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the way to secure a pistol that is to be kept ready for defense, is to CARRY it, normally concealed is best. The rest of the guns need to be either in a vault or taken apart and the parts scattered-hidden. anything else is an invitation to theft or misuse. There is no reason for such baloney, except being too lazy to carry a pistol.
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